Re: [-empyre-] Baudrillard and the future of theory

[sirot jacques <mirlitant@mac.com>]

Avant d'évoquer les grands penseurs de ce monde, avant de s'égarer dans des analyses vertigineuses, il serait nécessaire de revenir au bon sens de monsieur Jourdain, qui face à son maître de philosophie, ne cherchait pas midi à quatorze heures mais voulait seulement savoir s'il y avait de la lune...  ou s'il n'y en avait pas.
J.S.





 
On Sunday, March 11, 2007, at 10:10PM, "Aliette" <aliette@criticalsecret.org> wrote:
>I agree... It is the ultimate irony from Jean, over all his texts that is
>the shadow of Marx as imperfect - not uncompleted - theory:) I mean his
>general installation being of Marx, that is certain. 'even the fool lover..
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>On 11/03/07 23:00, "McKenzie Wark" <mckenzie.wark@gmail.com> probably wrote:
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>> Marx doesn't belong to the 'militants', and neither does 'radical'
>> thought. Baudrillard outflanked the Marxists in Mirror of Production,
>> arguing that the critique of political economy did not go far enough.
>> Like any critique it was still wedded to its object.
>> 
>> Going back to something (back to Marx, for example) does not
>> necessarily signal a fidelity to the original. It isn't always an
>> attempt to represent an origin. One can go back (to Marx, for example,
>> or Freud, whoever) in order to diverge again from that point.
>> 
>> In this sense Baudrillard was an interesting reader of Marx. One thing
>> one might do, however, is go back and read his reading of Marx, and
>> diverge again, away from his critique of it. About which, ironically,
>> we can say it is still to close.
>> 
>> But one can only do this once we stop using the proper names like
>> trading cards.
>> 
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